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Post by azina on Jul 16, 2005 20:22:17 GMT -5
Okay ... maybe next scene zoom to the present? Maybe he's thinking back on this or he's having a nightmare (ala "Batman Begins"). Is Crane already the Scarecrow after the scare toxin was released in Gotham, or is it before this? Is he learning how to be psychologist or is he already a doctor? Has he already seen (and/or experienced) the bullying of Falcone and his thugs? Maybe these questions might spark some ideas and scenarios.
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Post by imogen on Jul 16, 2005 20:27:49 GMT -5
I was thinking about the zoom to the present idea, and you've thought of several good places to start the story, but the question is which one works the best? Dilemma! I'll have to think about this one for a while... *thinking music*
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Post by azina on Jul 16, 2005 20:30:51 GMT -5
The way I solve it is ... which scenario sparks the most ideas, because that usually is the one you are the most inspired with. If they all seem equally good, create a list and write what future events might occur from that particular scenario. Gee, I should do this for myself in my novel. Would help to have that structure.  |
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Post by §ilvercell on Jul 16, 2005 20:35:44 GMT -5
Zoom to the present.(where he's boasting about his accomplishments)
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Post by imogen on Jul 16, 2005 20:38:23 GMT -5
Good thinking 99! I think we'd probably need to start with him already as a doctor, but only new and somewhat inexperienced. Then he starts experimenting with the fear toxin? I have to include somewhere that Ra's Al Ghul hired him and gave him the blue flowers to make it. Hey, that would be cool, they never explained in Batman Begins how those two actually met! Ah, the rusty cogs in my mind are finally working lol. I'm at work at the moment, so unfortunately I can't start writing more now, but I'll write down any new ideas that come to me. Yay! *does a dance* Thanks for coming up with a good way to get story ideas, I have a lot of trouble developing stories and you've got a pretty good technique, so go you  |
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Post by §ilvercell on Jul 16, 2005 21:38:42 GMT -5
Zoom to the present.(where he's boasting about his accomplishments) to those who didn't have the sarts to get in to collage and make a GOOD living *smirks at former bullies*..... |
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Post by seonedevinian on Jul 17, 2005 3:20:04 GMT -5
yes, quite a good start! he did get bullied when he was younger, in one of the animated tv shows the kids actually called him Scarecrow because of his thin frame, so it's cool that you incorporated that into your narrative. they also called him Ichabod (Crane)....i don't know if that helps any. he does have a lot of angst regarding his physical stature, that's why he uses fear as a means of contolling/manipulating. fear is something most people just can't deny. he also used to be a professor. in one version, he was fired for experimenting on his students.
i myself have got nothing yet dealing with the Crane/Scarecrow character, been workin on some other stuff. shall i share if/when i do get something?? (please say yes).
i'd love to see more from both of ya's!
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Post by imogen on Jul 17, 2005 3:26:45 GMT -5
I remember hearing about how he used to get bullied, but I never knew that they actually used the name Scarecrow to tease him! Thanks for that bit of info And I heard that he was actually a psychologist at a university, and he got fired for bringing a gun into class to demonstrate the effects of fear? I think that was it. So yeah, I thought that was really interesting. I should watch the animated series for ideas lol. And definitely share when you have something, that would be cool!  I'd better get writing otherwise the ideas will pop out of my head hehe. |
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Post by imogen on Jul 17, 2005 3:58:39 GMT -5
Okay! I've written a bit more. I get bored easily, hence I write stuff. I still have no idea where I'm going with this, but someone can put me in the right direction after reading this next part, I'm sure Here it is: He woke up in a cold sweat, trembling from the nightmare. His breath came in ragged gasps as the details of the dream sank in. Yanking the tangled bed sheet off him, he hurried to the bathroom and splashed icy water onto his face, getting rid of the sweat. The feeling of dread wasn't going away as easily though, and he reached for a towel to dry his face with.
Looking at his scrawny reflection in the mirror, all the names he was called as a child rushed back to him. After the terrifying day in the corn fields, the other kids had nicknamed him 'Scarecrow', both because of his pathetically thin frame and because his tormentors often told him that they thought he resembled the scarecrow in the field.
Jonathan Crane hadn't felt this insecure since he was a child, and he didn't like the feeling at all. During high school and university he'd struggled to overcome the physical and emotional abuse he received, and ever since he had become a successful psychologist he felt more powerful and safe than at any other time in his life. He relished all his knowledge of the human mind, and was particularly intrigued by the studies on fear. He had never been sure where this desire to understand such a volatile human reaction stemmed from, but now that he thought more about his childhood trauma, he had a good indication as to why he pursued this study.
Why do I have these dreams? he thought for the hundredth time as he stared at his reflection. Cold and calculating eyes looked back at him from a pale high-cheekboned face. The dreams had been more frequent recently; in the past he'd been lucky to only have one nightmare roughly every couple of months. But now the dreams were coming every week, sometimes several nights in a row, and no matter how they began they always finished in the corn field.
He opened the medicine cabinet and took out a small canister of pills. Washing a couple down with some tap water, he flicked off the bathroom light and crawled back into his single bed. He squinted at the alarm clock on the bedside table and managed to make out the time. Four am. Only three hours of sleep before he had to get up for work. He didn't mind though; he had a meeting with a very important person this morning. It was going to be a good day. |
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Post by azina on Jul 17, 2005 9:37:03 GMT -5
Oh, very intriguing. Wonder if he's meeting with a representive of Raz Al Goul?
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Post by minui on Jul 17, 2005 13:29:12 GMT -5
I'd just ditto what Azina said, but I fear somebody may hit me over the head with a wooden club for using that word. ;D
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Post by azina on Jul 17, 2005 14:27:08 GMT -5
just use ottid and you'll be just fine |
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Post by seonedevinian on Jul 18, 2005 2:43:57 GMT -5
yes, who is he meeting? it's another really good passage, girl, good job! i'm dying to see what happens next. as for ideas, you seem to have more direction in the Crane matter than i do. i've actually been using Cillian as inspiration for the antagonist in a long-ish story i'm working on with a friend, but it has nothing to do with Batman. it just so happens that we needed a younger man, but still older than our protagonist, with an air of mad intelligence. so you can see how Cillian works perfectly! keep going, you're doing awesome!
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Post by imogen on Jul 18, 2005 5:59:42 GMT -5
Cool bananas, glad to see that it's going well so far hehe. But I think I really need to sit down and do a story plan for this, otherwise I'll end up writing passages at random and make up stuff as I go along, which is not the mark of a good writer! So yesh, must write detailed story plan. By the way, I started reading a good fanfic over at fanfiction.net that carries over from Batman Begins. No Jonathan Crane as of yet though, but it's about Bruce Wayne taking in a young child named d*¢k Grayson (who later becomes Robin of course) and it's pretty cool so far. I think it's called The Nestling, so check it out And no, this is not a shameless plug for one of my stories lol, whoever this girl is, she's a cool writer! |
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Post by jill on Jul 18, 2005 20:07:16 GMT -5
yes, who is he meeting? it's another really good passage, girl, good job! i'm dying to see what happens next. as for ideas, you seem to have more direction in the Crane matter than i do. i've actually been using Cillian as inspiration for the antagonist in a long-ish story i'm working on with a friend, but it has nothing to do with Batman. it just so happens that we needed a younger man, but still older than our protagonist, with an air of mad intelligence. so you can see how Cillian works perfectly! keep going, you're doing awesome! I've been using Cillian for inspiration too, for a story totally un-related to Batman, haha. Anyway, I'm intrigued...what's yours about? And imgoen, I'm loving it so far! You're a good writer. |
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I'd better get writing otherwise the ideas will pop out of my head hehe.
