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Post by Seabreeze on Sept 1, 2009 13:23:52 GMT -5
The Irish drink period. It keeps them warm and dulls the boredom. As far as intelligence goes, just listen, I mean really listen to the man. Discussing Leo's weight problems on the radio? Give me a break. Changing his accent on whim? Give me a break. Go back to some of his earlier interviews and shudder at the Cork slang he uses. Without a script, the man is lost. I've never called him an idiot but drink he does and he once spent a night in jail because of it.
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Post by emma286 on Sept 1, 2009 15:51:19 GMT -5
Without a script, the man is lost. Maybe the guy gets nervous when doing public speeches have you thought of that? Maybe sometimes that affects how he comes across. Anxiety can do that to some people. It's not at all uncommon. For one, I stutter alot and come out with short answers in situations such as job interviews - so in the past have often rehearsed myself alot before attending one as I'm not very good at thinking up detailed answers on the spur of the moment in such situations, as feeling anxious tends to mean my mind goes blank alot of the time when I'm under pressure to give an answer to a question. Yet when I'm relaxed, not feeling under the same kind of pressure, and talking with people such as family members and friends I feel comfortable around I can be very different in conversation. Who's to say that just because he's awkward/short in interviews/public speeches that it means it's like that with him all the time? Or that it automatically means he's not intelligent? As has been said in here - none of us actually know him personally so none of us are really in a position to judge. but drink he does and he once spent a night in jail because of it. For all we know, just as with this Natasha who posted in here, you could just be saying that. And even if that is true, just how is it you would know something like that anyway?
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Post by rollergirl on Sept 1, 2009 16:38:42 GMT -5
What's the deal with everyone wanting to delete this thread? I don't see that anything horrible happened in it. Someone played a prank, and that's about it. No need for everyone to feel like the whole thing should be removed. Emma- don't feed the troll! There's one on every board. Best thing to do is ignore 'em.
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Post by emma286 on Sept 1, 2009 17:05:59 GMT -5
What's the deal with everyone wanting to delete this thread? I don't see that anything horrible happened in it. Someone played a prank, and that's about it. You do make a fair point Rollergirl. But at the same time I'm aware that there used to be a policy here against this kind of thing as a result of having read this: cillianforum.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=policy&action=display&thread=1985I feel that it must have been put in place for good reason. And seeing as this sites not been taken over by a new admin yet, to some extent wouldn't it still be expected in the meantime for members to abide by it? And maybe this does sound pretty far fetched of me to say. But I will admit I am concerned there is a chance Cillian could come across this site and see this, get the wrong kind of idea, and that it could lead to some kind of trouble for this site at some point. Perhaps to many in here that sounds silly of me. But I'm feeling it is still a possibility - however small or unlikely. I can't help feeling that must have been at least one of the reasons that original policy was put in place here in the first place. If I'm coming across as ridiculously ignorant to anyone then I'm sorry - but that's how it looks to me.
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Post by betablue on Sept 1, 2009 17:37:32 GMT -5
I have a vast collection of Cillian-related magazine articles. Unfortunately, I am a slob as well as a troll (I do prefer the term "gargoyle," actually), and said magazines are scattered all over the house. What I recall is this: early on (circa 2003-2005), Cillian gave an interview in British Vogue or Harper's Bazaar in which he confessed to having spent a night in the drunk tank as a result of being picked up for bicycling while intoxicated. (Yes: bicycling, and, yes: shades of "Edge of Love.") The interviewer said he was sheepish about the admission and that he said that jail was "disgusting" and that, as a youngster, he had very much learned his lesson. I remember they were conducting the interview over a glass of wine, and that Cillian offered her a ride to her next appointment. (I think there was a power outage or a rail strike on at the time.)
I'll do my level best to find that article. In the meantime, remember: I'd prefer to be a known as a "gargoyle," okay...?
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Post by rollergirl on Sept 1, 2009 17:39:50 GMT -5
LOL- I wasn't referring to you, betablue.
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Post by sabine on Sept 1, 2009 17:43:27 GMT -5
Born and mostly raised in Portlaoise, and have no problems with alcohol, thank you very much. When I was cold I put a jacket on, not knocked back the whiskey. Am astonished to hear Cillian Murphy is just a regular man. The thought had never occurred. In my fevered imagination he always puts down the toilet seat, puts the cap back on the toothpaste and might even wash the dishes once in a while. Burps rose petals, that kind of thing. Sorry for the slang in my previous post, Betablue. You got the gist anyway. Seabreeze, you have repeatedly said that your interest in Cillian is purely to do with his acting, yet I have seen that you discuss almost every aspect of his life except his work. Is there a film or a role you particularly enjoyed? I'm interested to know what brought you to this fan forum. I haven't seen all of his films, but really like 28 Days Later, Sunshine and Red Eye. Have a bet with a friend that "Cillian" will be posting soon on his "girlfriend's" account. There's money on this....
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Post by Seabreeze on Sept 2, 2009 0:41:22 GMT -5
He was brillant in BOP. I feel that was his best role. I enjoyed 28 Days, the cast was excellent. Kudos to all. Cillian's was also brillant in TWTSTB, although I have some qualms with the ending and I did not like how the woman were portrayed. Sunshine could have been and should have been a blockbuster but the director ruined it. I really like Red Eye. WTD was an experiment in torture. Cillian and Lucy was miscasted in what could have been a very funny movie. Cillian in The Edge of Love was not believable. The love scenes not one of Cillian's strongest points were ridiculous. Despite the bad press, I'm looking forward to seeing Hippie Hippie Shake and Peac*ck. What brought me here? Let's say it's work related. No doubt that Cillian will be posting on Tasha's account. What I'd be interested in knowing, how would you feel and what would you do if he really posted a comment? What would you ask him?
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Post by sabine on Sept 2, 2009 1:06:46 GMT -5
I will shamefully admit, Seabreeze, that I have not yet seen BOP. Loved TWTSTB, you say you didn't like the ending, was it that it seemed to chop off without warning? I would have liked to know what became of Teddy and how he lived with what he had done. I'm sure I will make myself unpopular if I say that I don't think WTD was at all good, I prefer to see Cillian in a dramatic role, I don't really see him as a comedy performer. As I said earlier, Red Eye is a favourite, although overall it was a silly film, and I'm not sure I would have enjoyed it as much if it wasn't Cillian. I like Rachel McAdams as well. Can't think of a single thing I would say to Cillian if he posted here. Unless to ask him if he thinks we're all round the bend?
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Post by Larvalee on Sept 2, 2009 1:07:56 GMT -5
Oh yes, all Irish drink just like all Germans are Nazis and all Polish people are stupid. WOW. And you are calling Cillian unintelligent! I think nearly everyone has had a night where they have had too much to drink and did something stupid but that doesn't = a drunk. If it did pretty much everyone on the earth would be an alcoholic. Yes he is loosing his Irish accent, that is natural when you move to another country it doesn't mean he is faking. And I would imagine it is natural to have it come back stronger when he goes back home to Ireland. If you actually listened to the radio interview, Cillian didn't bring up Leo's weight the host did and he pretty much sidestepped the whole issue. Keep in mind interviews are his biggest fear so if he stammers a bit now and then that is understandable. He might sound nervous at times but I never translate that as him being unintelligent. That's like calling someone who has a fear of snakes unintelligent for running away screeching when a snake is thrown in their face. Things aren't as black and white as you make them out to be. "Am astonished to hear Cillian Murphy is just a regular man. The thought had never occurred. In my fevered imagination he always puts down the toilet seat, puts the cap back on the toothpaste and might even wash the dishes once in a while. Burps rose petals, that kind of thing." <----- This cracked my sh*t up! Thank you for that!
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Post by Larvalee on Sept 2, 2009 1:15:44 GMT -5
Seabreeze, thank you for saying something positive about the man we are all here for. I really do enjoy your comments when you aren't making crazy judgments about him and his personal life. You have me very curious about what your line of work is now......
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Post by emma286 on Sept 2, 2009 4:33:19 GMT -5
I will just chime in here and say that I don't really get why some people are so harsh about "Watching the Detectives". Admittedly, I don't think it's the best comedy movie I've ever seen. I have seen better. But I didn't see anything about it that was actually bad nor noticed anything wrong with either Cillans or Lucy Liu's acting performances. Far from it. I felt admittedly that the plot was a little thin, and some parts were pretty predictable. I would have also preferred that the movie be a bit longer (as with Red Eye). But overall felt it was a very entertaining and funny movie. One that could have been better in some ways - but overall pretty good. It certainly had me laughing most of the way through. Incidentally I also haven't yet seen BOP or TWTSTB just yet. In addition to other of Cillians movies from the earlier stages of his career. I definitely plan to check these out though when I can. Also very much looking forward to checking out Hippie Hippie Shake, Perriers Bounty and Peac*ck - the last of which I especially like the sound of.
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Post by Seabreeze on Sept 2, 2009 5:02:38 GMT -5
WTD could have been a great date movie. It was very funny but it needed to be played by younger native Brooklynites. Lucy and Cillian... naaaahhhhhh. You haven't seen BOP and you call yourself a fan? Shame on you. Run don't walk to Gumshoe Videos. Same for TWTSTB. In my haste I forgot to mention Intermission..... funny, brillant ensemble cast. Now there's a film where Cillian's comic abilities shine. Bravo Cillian. The Silent City is weird but in a good way though Cillian is only in it for a minute or two. He's really good as the young reaper in an early short film. And of course who can forget Dr. Crane. Jackson Rippner and Dr. Crane fit Cillian like a soft smooth leather glove, a black glove. In short I've seen Murph's stuff and for the most part praise him. Peac*ck, not the bird, the film is the name of a town, nothing more or is it?
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Post by emma286 on Sept 2, 2009 5:18:06 GMT -5
You haven't seen BOP and you call yourself a fan? Shame on you. Run don't walk to Gumshoe Videos. Same for TWTSTB. I know, cardinal sin! I intend to make up for it as soon as I can! In my haste I forgot to mention Intermission..... funny, brillant ensemble cast. Now there's a film where Cillian's comic abilities shine. Bravo Cillian. The Silent City is weird but in a good way though Cillian is only in it for a minute or two. He's really good as the young reaper in an early short film. And of course who can forget Dr. Crane. Jackson Rippner and Dr. Crane fit Cillian like a soft smooth leather glove, a black glove. In short I've seen Murph's stuff and for the most part praise him. Peac*ck, not the bird, the film is the name of a town, nothing more or is it? Thanks for sharing your thoughts on Intermission and Silent City. I'll have to check out further info on those also, as though I've heard of them don't know too much about them. I'm with you on Dr Crane and Jackson Rippner. Seeing him in both those parts are what got me really interested in his acting to begin with. ;D Also very much agreeing with what you said about 28 Days Later before too. I'd already seen 28 Days Later quite a long while before seeing Batman Begins/Red Eye but (much as I have a hard time believing this myself) it didn't strike me right off that it was the same actor - although upon first impression I still really liked 28 Days Later alot and enjoyed Cillians performance in it. Recently I picked the movie up on dvd - and was pleased to find it to be even better than I remembered! Disco Pigs is definitely another that I'm interested in seeing, as is on The Edge too. Hmm. I'm not too sure about the Peac*ck thing. Wouldn't mind knowing that myself as it goes...
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Post by Seabreeze on Sept 2, 2009 7:02:33 GMT -5
Silly me. how could I not mention Disco Pigs. You should see this one first. This is a very young Cillian in a flawless performance. Beautiful, painful, heartbreaking. I cried at the end. This and BOP are the only Murphy films that made me weep.
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