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Post by aurora10 on Sept 1, 2005 17:30:00 GMT -5
Not dead.
Lots of people don't like the villians, which makes sense, but I've always loved the evil ones. Plus, Jackson's character was likeable.
Dr. J C, same here! lmao Stupid people.
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Post by missc on Sept 2, 2005 11:54:04 GMT -5
Only evil people wants to keep the villian alive. He died. Just because it was breathing doesn't mean anything. He took his last breath and died.  |
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Post by missc on Sept 2, 2005 12:10:44 GMT -5
Meant to say "he died".
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Post by afan9 on Sept 2, 2005 12:50:25 GMT -5
Yeah...I don't know - I think it's just my wishful thinking, sorry guys
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Post by Dr. J Crane on Sept 2, 2005 13:57:57 GMT -5
Hey, C'mon. It's got nothing to do with being evil or wishful thinking. I think most of us here feel, not just because it's Cillian, that Jackson wasn't really bad through and through, that it has the same borderline evil/good touches that, for ex. Arnold Schwarzenegger had in Terminators 1 and 2. He came back as good Arnold in 2.
Which is why most of us are hoping for a sequel. If Jackson IS bad to the bone, then yes, Lisa should kick his ass and KILL HIM DEAD! But for now, he is alive.
What is not shown in movies mustn't always be assumed. Mortals or wizards, the story was tight enough that if he survived the tracheotomy (which should have killed him to begin with - it's his damned windpipe, for god's sake!! - he needs it to breathe!) and his eyes were still open AND we heard the siren then he's alive.
Sorry - don't mean to rant or even condone Jackson in any way. But I know his character is mean for what he is doing, but he is wwaaaayyy more human ..
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Post by missc on Sept 2, 2005 14:04:08 GMT -5
I forgot about the windpipe. So with the windpipe shatter and the gun shots, that means he died! |
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Post by aurora10 on Sept 2, 2005 16:33:56 GMT -5
*gasp* That doesn't mean I'm evil! I just think the villians are real interesting characters. Oh, let me rephrase what I've been saying about this whole situation: I'm pretty sure he didn't die. I'm not 100% sure he isn't but like Dr. J, we shouldn't assume.
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Post by blue-eyed struck on Sept 2, 2005 18:14:13 GMT -5
I think Wes Craven is good at exhibiting people dying/dead (look at his past movies). He usually doesn't show someone on the floor, STILL breathing and then letting the audience assume they're dead. If he wants them dead, he usually "shows" them dead. As far as I remember the movie (seen it 3 times), they never show Jackson dead! I think he left it like that so that there could be room for a sequel. He probably wanted to know how well Red Eye would do before making that decision.
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Post by Gobby on Sept 2, 2005 18:34:44 GMT -5
i still think he didnt die cuz that would be a crappy ending...no really a crappy predictable ending...
o well i juss stick to what i believe nd lets all juss leave it at that...
maybe when the red eye dvd comes out things'll be more clarified
x)
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Post by §hannon on Sept 2, 2005 18:38:12 GMT -5
He. Did. Not. Die.
Like I've said 10 million times, how can they be talking about a sequel WITHOUT Cillian?
I mean. Come on now.
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Post by aurora10 on Sept 2, 2005 18:39:25 GMT -5
Who throws a cupcake? HONESTLY!
Errr......
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Post by Lisa Rippner on Sept 2, 2005 18:43:11 GMT -5
I think Wes Craven is good at exhibiting people dying/dead (look at his past movies). He usually doesn't show someone on the floor, STILL breathing and then letting the audience assume they're dead. If he wants them dead, he usually "shows" them dead. As far as I remember the movie (seen it 3 times), they never show Jackson dead! I think he left it like that so that there could be room for a sequel. He probably wanted to know how well Red Eye would do before making that decision. Good point, I was thinking along the same lines. Didn't Wes say he would love to do a sequel? Well, for that Jackson would have to be alive, or I would at least think so. This post is pointless, I'm just throwing my 'he's still alive' two cents. |
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Post by blue-eyed struck on Sept 2, 2005 18:52:02 GMT -5
Hey Lisa, what r u doing posting here!!  Go finish the rest of your fan fic!! LOL! I'm J/K! I just love your stories! |
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Post by reverie on Sept 2, 2005 19:26:51 GMT -5
He. Did. Not. Die. Like I've said 10 million times, how can they be talking about a sequel WITHOUT Cillian? I mean. Come on now. I agree with Shannon. |
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Post by peaches on Sept 3, 2005 12:51:38 GMT -5
i just saw red eye again last night...to me, the second time was better...except there were these idiots behind us who talked the entire time...i thought the second time was great compared to the first...the movie was more tense and cillian was even hotter...yes, that's possible...haha...i can't wait to see breakfast on pluto!
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Go finish the rest of your fan fic!! LOL! I'm J/K! I just love your stories!
