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Post by emma286 on Aug 6, 2009 19:12:27 GMT -5
Now. (Dusting off my hands briskly) I am only going to address this one more time - the idea that Cillian might be deathy ill, that is. Not because it has gained any credence to my mind from one particular user's muddled and disturbing viewpoint, but because it brought to light some things for me. Namely, that if Cillian were ill (and just to be clear, I do not think he is), there are some here who would not have an iota of compassion for the man. No admiration that he would have been carrying on with filming movies while struggling with an illness, treatments, whatever. No sense of inspiration for an artist who refused to give up his passion simply because of health issues. No common sense realization that of course his wife would know and be concerned for the man she loves; and that the woman wouldn't be able to wave a magic wand over him and make him well again. I'm so completely sickened by the sentiment on this board from one or two people who, if Cillian were to reveal an illness, would be far more interested in gloating that they were 'right' than offering up any well wishes for him. But, to put it blunty, and I can't put this any other way, some people are pieces of sh*t. One thing that I will say is that I genuinely do really hope that the guy doesn't have anything wrong with him.  I personally would feel pretty upset about it if it turned out to be the case and really hope it's not. I will say that I do think that Seabreeze has actually made some valid points concerning some of the more recent public pictures that he's appeared in. Without a doubt it does also very much look to me as if he's lost a fair bit weight in some of them (even though he's always been pretty lean) and looks a fair bit more haggard in them compared to older one's. So can totally understand why other people here might well have noticed this and be feeling somewhat concerned for his well fare. At the same time though, I do think it is highly unfair to the guy to go making wild speculations about what's going on with his private life affairs in any way (especially considering just how private a person he is and in actual fact not obliged to share the details of his personal problems/going ons to anybody he doesn't want to). And certainly not to make some of the types of critiscms that I've come across in certain posts on here. As has already been mentioned, some people really do seem have an attitude problem with that kind of thing. And unfortunately it does seem to happen that famous people/celebrities tend to attract alot of that type of negative attention. No doubt because alot of people just have a big problem accepting someone elses success, and so feel they have to tear that other person down for the sake of it. It is a very unfortunate thing indeed that some people choose to take that attitude towards others. |
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Post by betablue on Aug 6, 2009 22:46:48 GMT -5
bestshot: How, if actors are subject to medical checks before essaying roles larger than bit work, do we account for Heath Ledger dropping dead mid-shoot at the grand old age of-- what was it-- twenty-eight? Wouldn't a simple blood test have detected Mr. Ledger's predilection for prescription sleep aids...? A close friend of mine who has been fortunate enough to be within arm's distance of Cillian a half dozen times said she was shocked the last time she saw him ("shocked," not "shot": he has yet to take out a restraining order  ): she thought he looked so thin and worn out. Granted, this was a few months back, and she didn't get a picture, but I've known her for over thirty years, and I respect her honesty. I'm speaking with an older fan's concern, by the way. Please don't call me "a piece of sh*t." As a senior curmudgeon, I'm entitled to "a blunt excrement," at least.
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Post by Larvalee on Aug 6, 2009 23:03:39 GMT -5
I am going to distract from the drama with a possibly stupid question.... lol Does the fact that the movie is going to TIFF mean it's going to be in theaters internationally?
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Post by emma286 on Aug 6, 2009 23:32:34 GMT -5
I'm sorry to hear your friend thinks Cillian looks unwell, let's all hope he is well and happy. Seconding this comment, and hope so too. |
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Post by Melty_Girl on Aug 7, 2009 0:05:15 GMT -5
Four quick points about this silly Cillian-is-ill thread.
1.) Cillian has always been very thin.
2.) The speculation about his health on this forum is 100% fact-free. We have no way of knowing if he is ill or healthy.
3.) Stars always look different in person (surprisingly thin, short, etc.). It's not evidence of anything except the illusion of film.
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4.) Cillian is now 33 years old. He is aging, as people tend to do, if they're lucky. He is extremely fair-skinned, with very little natural defense against the sun, so he's likely to wrinkle faster than many people. He is not going to look the same now as he did 10, or even 3, years ago.
Some might call Cillian "haggard," some might point out he's simply getting closer to middle age. He's still beautiful.
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Post by emma286 on Aug 7, 2009 0:10:30 GMT -5
Some might call Cillian "haggard," some might point out he's simply getting closer to middle age. I'm sorry if my comment came across the wrong way, as honestly didn't mean it negatively. It's just that it was the first word that came to mind for me at the time. But you make a fair point in what you say. |
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Post by Seabreeze on Aug 7, 2009 7:35:19 GMT -5
Just to clear up some things:
1 Megan role playing games with someone does not have one iota to do with the actor.
2 No one stated that he is deadly ill.
3 He is not close to middle age but he does look haggard.
4 Medical tests can be doctored. How many of our celebs are drug addicts?
5 You assume that Cillian is surrounded by family and friends. Considering the recent sightings Cillian eats, drinks, shops, and goes to concerts alone.
6 There is thin and there is unhealthy thin. Sunken eye sockets and exposed ribs are not signs of a robust person
7 Why should I or the other person you refer to be jealous of Cillian's success? You haven't the slightest idea who or what we are.
8 How can you describe someone as beautiful if you haven't see him close up without makeup?
9 How can you want to do someone based on the characters an actor creates for a film? What you see on film and in interviews has nothing to do with who he really is. In short you want to have sex with a total stranger.
You are all such devoted fans so why hasn't anyone wished him a Happy Anniversary which was on August 1?
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Post by emma286 on Aug 7, 2009 8:47:34 GMT -5
I am going to distract from the drama with a possibly stupid question.... lol Does the fact that the movie is going to TIFF mean it's going to be in theaters internationally? That's a very good question. I'd really like to know that too. Does anybody else here happen to know? |
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Post by Melty_Girl on Aug 7, 2009 11:28:05 GMT -5
Just to clear up some things: Sorry to say it, but I'm not sure you're the person to clear up anything. You contradict yourself constantly, and don't even acknowledge when people call you on it. I'm afraid you don't have much credibility. And you also undermine yourself by constantly insulting everyone here, which you've done again now. So I'll respond only to one of your assertions here... So naive... 1.) Unfamous people are often cut out of photos. On the red carpet, unfamous people (spouses are usually the exception) are sometimes asked to step out of the way of the photo. 2.) When unfamous people are not cut out of the shot, would you know which people near Cillian are his family and friends? Not always. 3.) Sometimes when family and friends walk on the street with famous relatives and spot a photographer, they step a few paces away so that they are not in photos. You think you're photo shy? Try hanging out with someone whose photo is internationally published. 4.) Do you think that Cillian is always photographed when he's out with family and friends? No. He isn't photographed that often -- far less than once a month. So do you think that the few shots out there can be taken as an accurate representation of how he spends his time every day? That's absurd! He's living with his wife and kids, and according to news reports, he's interrupted during interviews texting his siblings whom he's close with, or he flies his friends to hang out with him at a film festival, etc., etc. So the evidence you offer to support your central thesis that he's a loner is not representative of how he spends most of his time, and therefore proves nothing. 5.) There haven't been many public appearance photos of Cillian lately, because he hasn't been at many official events, and he doesn't go out to paparazzi targets much. But of the sessions he's been caught in in the last couple of years, he's actually often been photographed with Yvonne or his kids, the exception being the night he was photographed out with Sienna Miller. But for the few where he's been alone, it's either no surprise that he's alone -- like at the airport going to Hollywood meetings -- or it's unprovable that he's alone (see #1, #2, #3). ... So this theory of yours is a TOTAL non-issue! |
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Post by Melty_Girl on Aug 7, 2009 12:31:50 GMT -5
I'm sorry if my comment came across the wrong way, as honestly didn't mean it negatively. It's just that it was the first word that came to mind for me at the time. But you make a fair point in what you say. Oh, no worries! I am going to distract from the drama with a possibly stupid question.... lol Does the fact that the movie is going to TIFF mean it's going to be in theaters internationally? It doesn't necessarily mean that, but it is certainly a good sign. Since there's still no official release dates, the producers will probably be trying to sell the film to distributors at TIFF, just as they did at Cannes (even though the film didn't screen at Cannes). |
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Post by Larvalee on Aug 7, 2009 13:20:03 GMT -5
Thanks guys. So sounds like we won't know for sure until later. I really hope we can all see it on the big screen!
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Post by xxxblueeyesxxx on Aug 7, 2009 14:15:07 GMT -5
I hope to see this movie soon, too...and I hope that it'll released in Italy!!
ps: great pics!!
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Post by Melty_Girl on Aug 7, 2009 16:23:25 GMT -5
I say I am a fan of Cillians, in that I really enjoy most of his movies and yes, I think he's enormously attractive. But that is pretty much where it ends. ... Guess this fan forum thing isn't my scene after all. This forum is only what the participants make it. Perhaps you'd like to raise topics you're more interested in. I certainly would welcome new topics and discussing his films and so on! If not, best wishes to you. |
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Post by emma286 on Aug 7, 2009 17:00:57 GMT -5
I'm sorry to know that you feel that way Bestshot. Though I know I don't really know you yet, hope that at some stage you feel like coming back and posting again - but in the meantime also wish you well too.
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Post by Pisces on Aug 7, 2009 18:43:51 GMT -5
Bestshot- I hope you hang around anyway. There are all sorts of ways to be a fan, and I agree that enjoying his movies and finding him attractive are more than enough. I had no idea about the man's anniversary either, and honestly I don't care when it is - I have my own anniversary to worry about and that should be all that matters to me. I would hope that you won't be so put off by some of the unusual levels of fan interest by a few of the users here, and stay around. I have enjoyed your posts, and it's been nice to see new people joining. Please do not be put off by the lunatic fringe. |
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I personally would feel pretty upset about it if it turned out to be the case and really hope it's not. I will say that I do think that Seabreeze has actually made some valid points concerning some of the more recent public pictures that he's appeared in. Without a doubt it does also very much look to me as if he's lost a fair bit weight in some of them (even though he's always been pretty lean) and looks a fair bit more haggard in them compared to older one's. So can totally understand why other people here might well have noticed this and be feeling somewhat concerned for his well fare. 
): she thought he looked so thin and worn out. Granted, this was a few months back, and she didn't get a picture, but I've known her for over thirty years, and I respect her honesty.
