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Post by punctuator on Aug 7, 2010 0:23:22 GMT -5
ABC is re-broadcasting Red Eye Saturday August 7 at or around 8:00 p.m. I'm assuming this is the "extended version," in which, for purposes of rounding out a standard two-hour broadcast slot, Wes Craven added back footage in which Lisa gets to open up a full sixteen-ounce can of whoop-a[ss] on Jackson, not the daintier twelve-ounce can she used in the theatrical cut. Will be having it TiVo'd, but my video-editing skills are thoroughly inept, so I can't promise clips.
That's all.
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Post by livingdeadgirl on Aug 7, 2010 9:13:08 GMT -5
I was just going to post this here, lol. I hope that there is more in-flight footage! Oh and seeing Jackson in HD is worth tuning in for too. ;D
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Post by rukia888 on Aug 7, 2010 17:15:07 GMT -5
Thanks for posting this, Punctuator. I was just about to announce it on here, too. DEFINITELY CHECK IT OUT, you guys! I've watched it when it first aired on ABC, and it's definitely an extended version! I wouldn't say it was better than the theatrical version... but being a huge Red Eye fan, I was giddy at the little extra lines/scenes.
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Post by ashleyrose09 on Aug 7, 2010 21:16:40 GMT -5
Ah crap I missed it. Just now saw this one here. Oh well. Does anyone know where I could see the clips they added into the movie? Might have already seen them but I don't know.
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Post by rukia888 on Aug 9, 2010 0:20:34 GMT -5
I've watched it before when it was first shown on ABC, but I watched it again on Saturday. I couldn't help it. Did anybody else watch it? What did you guys think of the extra scenes/lines?
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Post by TT on Aug 9, 2010 5:31:55 GMT -5
What happens in the extra scenes / lines?
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Post by Suzanne on Aug 9, 2010 9:27:02 GMT -5
I also watched Red Eye on Saturday.. I have seen this film so many times and I own the DVD...This is a film you can see over and over and still get goose bumps watching Cillian. The sexual chemistry between Cillian and Rachel is so remarkable and hot, you don't want the film to end. ;D For the posters who want to know about the deleted scenes and extra footage, I wasn't aware of them as I watched the film. The next time when ABC airs this GEM, I will definitely be on the lookout for them. Suzanne
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Post by punctuator on Aug 9, 2010 10:07:54 GMT -5
Okay, here goes. The extra stuff, without (for now) benefit of a side-by-side comparison with the theatrical/DVD cut. Could be choppy, could be more to come: Lisa's arrival at the Dallas airport: We see her getting out of the taxi still fielding questions from Cynthia on the phone. Bob and Marianne Taylor aren't the only "customers with special needs": "The Simpsons," Cynthia says, "didn't get the California King they requested." "Uh huh," Lisa says, heaving her luggage out of the trunk. "The chiropractors need a bigger conference room," Cynthia continues. "And room service walked in on a couple having sex, and they're really mad." "Tell the Simpsons that they do have a California." "Eighty-four inches, head to toe. If they don't believe you, have a tape measure there to back you up." She dodges someone rushing past on the wet sidewalk. "Go ahead and swap the chiropractors for the bingo suppliers. And a bottle of Dom and a basket of fruit should help re-set the mood for our two lovebirds."
In the airport, after Lisa and Jackson meet in line and Lisa goes up to the ticket counter: The Fresh Air counter worker who meets Rebecca and her mother gets on the overhead to tell the passengers of delayed flight 1019 to Miami that they'll be updating the flight info "as soon as we know anything. Thank you for your patience."
In the Tex-Mex: Extra info about Grandma Henrietta, starting after "Duke helped with the rest.":
[Seems there might even have been more here.] Jackson smiles, shrugs. "Hey--"
"She was a great lady," Lisa says. "She founded two charities. She ran for public office. She never slept--"
Jackson interjects: "Except with Duke." Lisa laughs; he joins her; and then we're back to his original-script line: "Wow. A dynamic woman."
[Again: maybe a little too much info (and not just because we didn't need to have Henrietta and Duke's relationship spelled out in neon. Woo hoo, Granny had a BOYFRIEND-boyfriend!). The scene in the theatrical cut does a perfectly fine job of illustrating Henrietta, and Lisa's admiration for her.]
In the airport: During the "boredom montage," Keefe, speaking from the news feed on the overhead TVs, has several more lines (I think), including one about "the thugs" who practice terrorism, preceding his "Do I have your attention?" line. The news anchor then tells us that Charles Keefe was a West Point graduate and a CIA field operative and that he's expected to become full secretary of the Department of Homeland Security. The anchor is adding that there's controversy surrounding Keefe's appointment or policies when her lines are swallowed as the scene cuts back to original footage and the boarding announcement for flight 1019.
[Might have been interesting if this had been kept in: it makes Keefe look a little less saintly, and the idea of controversy surrounding his appointment (and potential promotion) provides motivation for why someone would want him out of the way.]
There might be two more sets of intercut midshots between Lisa and Jackson when they get up to leave the Tex-Mex: the rhythm of the scene feels slightly different, but I'd have to check it against the DVD to be sure.
Takeoff: Extra shot of lovable old Combat-Boot Lady putting on her reading glasses. Suzie Plaxton and the other flight attendant gossiping through the turbulence: "Wait," says Suzie. "Was he the blonde--?" The other attendant grins. "Yeah, he's tall--" More shots of the passengers looking uncomfortable as the plane rocks in the rough air (these shots appear in the outtakes footage on the DVD), including a man comforting a crying toddler boy. [Will just say thanks to Wes for cutting that. I'd take being stuck next to Jackson Rippner on a plane any day-- even if Jackson looked like Steve Buscemi's homelier brother-- over being stuck within thirty feet of a wailing toddler.] The flight attendants continue gossiping. Mr. Blonde, it seems, has an accent. A "European" accent. "I don't know if it's, like, 'London,' or--" says the younger one.
"It's 'European,'" Suzie says, working those wordly-snide eyebrows while she fixes her earring.
[Yep, it's kinda funny, but, yep, it rightly landed on the cutting-room floor.]
Added: an aisle shot of Jackson and Lisa, Jackson for the first time looking sinister. Which then cuts to original footage as Lisa mutters "Are we there yet..?" and Jackson asks, solicitously, "So, was Henrietta your mom's mom or your dad's mom?"
Extra lines following Lisa's parents' divorce, starting after "... Dad stayed in Miami.":
"He moved us out there about twenty years ago," Lisa says.
"Do you have brothers or sisters?" Jackson asks.
[Now we're edging into creepy-stalker territory. It was one thing for Jackson to ask whose mom Henrietta was, after Lisa had been discussing Henrietta earlier; now it's starting to sound like he's prying, and Rachel McAdams actually responds with a sort of customer-service smile, as if Lisa is coming close to clamming up. Not to mention, the turbulence in the scene is approaching WWII anti-aircraft-fire level. But we ARE treated to an interesting bit of apocrypha, when Lisa replies:]
"Yeah, I have two older brothers. One is a doctor in London; the other one's in San Diego. Both are married; both have kids." Then it's back to Jackson asking if Joe still works.
When Lisa enters the bathroom: Extra lines as she sinks to the floor, crying: "I can't. I can't do this. I can't. Oh, God, somebody help me."
[Glad they cut this and went immediately to dry heaves and a self-motivating "Get up.": Not only would Rebecca have heard-- there are several more shots of Rebecca listening outside the door-- but it makes Lisa look a little too much like a damsel in need of rescue. She can rescue herself just fine, thanks. Though I would suggest that she not rinse her mouth using the water from an airplane-lav sink. Ewww....]
The house battle: Two words: BOWLING BALL. As Jackson chases Lisa up the stairs, she chucks the fire extinguisher, head-butts Jackson, and spears him with her high heel. In additional footage, Lisa, near the top of the stairs, tugs on an extension cord hooked to something on a tripod. The something tips; we hear glass breaking. Then we see Lisa unzipping a bowling-ball bag. A big, old-fashioned, Samsonite monster of a bowling-ball bag. From which she lugs what has to be a men's-weight bowling ball. Which she then heaves down the stairs at Jackson, who does the sensible thing and gets the hell out of the way.
[This made me laugh out loud. Very Wile E. Coyote/Roadrunner stuff. What would she have thrown next-- an anvil with ACME stamped on the side? I'm all for broad humor, but the bowling ball, sadly, sapped a little too much tension from the scene, and Craven was right to cut it. Also wisely cut:]
Jackson saying, after Lisa has ditched him by climbing out of an upstairs window and doubling back into the house by retrieving the door key from under the flower pot: "Think I've changed my mind about killing Dad." [Again, I laughed: Cillian is trying to rasp and shout at the same time, and his voice cracks in most-unfortunate ways. Rippner may have been foolish to follow Lisa home when he's wounded and angry-- that old saw about automatically being at a disadvantage on your enemy's home turf-- but now he's starting to look-- and sound-- a little silly. Craven was smart to cut this.]
Epilogue, or the stuff we've all been waiting for:
EMTs load Jackson onto a gurney and wheel him out of the house. Lisa and Joe walk out ahead of them [Thanks so much, the EMTs must be thinking. It's not like we have a critically wounded man here. Just saunter on, you two.].
Lisa asks Joe: "Are you alright?"
"I think so."
Lisa prompts: "Are you sure?"
"I think so," Joe replies, smiling. "You?"
Lisa smiles, too, as she and Joe walk past the SUV embedded in the house and under the yellow police tape. [Behind them, the EMTs might well be thinking Oh, no rush. Don't hurry on our account. By the way, there's an SUV embedded in YOUR EFFING HOUSE. But no rush. Seriously. We only have a guy with two bullet wounds to the torso, a one-inch hole within two inches of his femoral artery, and a botched tracheotomy here.]
"Yeah. Yeah, I am, now."
"Y'know--" --and here, Brian Cox's accent slips just a bit-- "-- for the first time in a long while, I believe you."
The EMTs are finally able to pull ahead. Though there are no more closeups, we see that Jackson's face isn't covered; he's alive. We also see his bare shoulders and upper chest, and it looks as though, under the blanket, his hands are crossed at the wrist over his belly: in addition to the straps holding him to the gurney, he may be handcuffed.
[Last comment: I thought standard practice was to let the medical-emergency and/or surgical prep team at the hospital cut clothing completely off. Here, the EMTs would have had to get Jackson out of his jacket, his dress shirt, and his t-shirt. But since they were following the Olympic Saunter Team, I guess they had plenty of time.... ]
Weird censorship re-dubs:
The Taylors are no longer "a[ss]holes": they're "animals." Followed by "There are customers who are 'customers' [not a[ss]holes], and there are customers with special needs."
Jackson's "good dog" is now waiting in a "silver sedan," not a "silver Beemer." This one is downright strange, especially since BMW seems to have been the one company in the world that did not buy ad space during the broadcast.
So Cynthia can't call the Taylors a[ss]holes, but Lisa can tell them to shove that good ol' comment card "right up [their] a[ss]." I am confused.
*****
That is all for now. There may be other things, a shot here and there, that I missed. If I catch anything else next time I watch the traditional edition, I'll certainly pipe up. Just wanted to add that I have suffered for today's recap: someone somewhere spotted a cloud on Saturday evening, and therefore major storm warnings ran in blaring red across the bottom of the screen during the entire freaking broadcast. Warnings for Minnesota counties that no one has ever heard of. Counties that should have been passed off to the Dakotas years ago. Gaaaak...!
Oh, and one more thing: I'm with Suzanne. I love this little movie. I really, really do....
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Post by ashleyrose09 on Aug 9, 2010 15:07:53 GMT -5
Wow thanks for all that! I think just from reading it I might have seen some of the extra scenes on the deleted scenes they have on the DVD.
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Post by punctuator on Aug 9, 2010 17:41:05 GMT -5
You're welcome! But which DVD do you have...? I have an original-print widescreen Region One, an original widescreen Region Two, and a reprint Region One with the "new" cover photo (hey, Hollywood Video was dumping 'em for a dollar apiece on their "used" racks), and none of them have extended or deleted scenes, just the blooper reel, the commentary track, and the two "making-ofs." All this stuff on ABC was new to me. Is there a deleted/extended-scenes Easter egg hidden somewhere in the DVD menu...?
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Post by Suzanne on Aug 9, 2010 20:45:08 GMT -5
Thank you, thank you punctuator, what a fabulous read.
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Post by rukia888 on Aug 9, 2010 22:51:26 GMT -5
Thanks for that, Punctuator! I think you covered all the extra scenes/lines! ;D I liked some of the extras like the extra lines during the Tex-Mex scene because it's one of my favorite scenes. Overall, I enjoyed most of the extras because it just meant more Red Eye goodness! ;D I like the edited, theatrical version better also. All of the extra lines/scenes kinda ruined the fast-paced flow of the movie that I liked. They kinda made the movie feel a bit more awkward than it really was... but I still enjoyed it very much!
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Post by TT on Aug 10, 2010 4:43:44 GMT -5
Thank you for that! Very entertaining read!
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Post by ashleyrose09 on Aug 10, 2010 17:24:09 GMT -5
Really cant remember where I saw the deleted scenes but I'm pretty sure they are on my DVD of it somewhere.
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Post by alejandrali on Aug 10, 2010 21:29:44 GMT -5
What region is your dvd, ashley? I want to see them, the deleted parts, if they are on dvd, but I think it's a region matter, like Breakfast on pluto and the deleted scenes, they are not on my dvd but they exist, in a dvd with different region, I believe from Ireland.
Also I remember that in the comments of the director and producer, at the end, when the credits pass, they say that originally Red Eye was about.. more than 100 minutes, then 75 minutes or something.. to end up on 80 something (yeah, i dont remember it well) xD
Thanks for posting the deleted dialogs punctuator!
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