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Post by ashleyrose09 on Aug 31, 2008 13:37:55 GMT -5
Yeah, none of his movies I've seen (and that's almost all of them ;D not bragging of course!) have had really nothing too explicit as far as sex scenes go. We usually see more skin on the women then we do him anyway (not including the first scene in 28 Days Later since that wasn't a sex scene, go figure!  ) But who knows how he feels about it. I think he mainly focuses on the emotion he puts into a movie though, so I guess however much is crucial to the film he'll do. |
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Post by saintkitten on Sept 1, 2008 3:45:22 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind if he does do one someday. Heheh, I just didn't want to sound like a perve and say that right off the bat.  Haha oh don't worry about that! We're all adults, aren't we? ;D Me neither, definitely ! So far , the one with the ugly Scarlett is the most explicit I've seen. ;D There's a love scene also at the end of "How Harry Became A Tree" , but pretty much nothing more explicit than in "Watching The Detectives" , just some kissing and the girl wears no bra (yeah, just as Keira - it seems that Cillian fans are destined to see just a lot of tits haha  ). Yeah, she's starting to sound boring witht that one Hopefully not just to see Sienna Miller's pubic hair digitally enhanced !! Hahaha have you read about that one? www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/3am/2008/07/24/sienna-miller-s-private-parts-digitally-enhanced-for-film-hippie-hippie-shake-115875-20668499/ |
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Post by malle on Sept 1, 2008 9:57:37 GMT -5
I guess with an actor like Cillian that can broadcast some much emotion with his facial expressions, it is hardly necessary to do a explicit sex scene.
I think Cillian would choose to do it, if it was an important part of the story but on the other hand sex scenes often get far too much of the wrong kind of attention even when they are very artisticly done. I can see why a seroius actor would choose to avoid them and then there is also the feelings of the loved ones to take into considerations. Perhaps his mother doesn't like it, perhaps the wife doesn't feel comfortable or he doesn't want his kids to see that, when they get older.
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Post by saintkitten on Sept 1, 2008 23:55:39 GMT -5
I guess with an actor like Cillian that can broadcast some much emotion with his facial expressions, it is hardly necessary to do a explicit sex scene. Yes, I do agree with you about this  I also think that explicit sex scenes rarely are really necessary for the story, and also love scenes are sometimes just useless and inopportune. For example, I remember reading that in "Sunshine" there was initially a love scene between Capa and Cassie, in the oxygen garden, but then Danny Boyle decided not to include it because he found it kinda out of context in a sci-fi movie (and I totally agree) , and also Cillian agreed that his character was unlikely to be in the mood for love in such a situation (and I agree again). In my opinion even in "28 Days Later" they should have avoided a love story between Selena and Jim, I find it kinda pathetic , but that's just my opinion . I think it is right to avoid them if they're useless, or gross; but I would be disappointed to know that a good and professional actor as Cillian would refuse a necessary one just for family reasons. I'm always referring to something that's worth it and not gross , of course I wouldn't like to see him doing a porno movie ! |
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Post by rukia888 on Sept 2, 2008 0:23:28 GMT -5
Yes, I did hear about this. I think I read about it a few months ago? It's quite absurd really how people tend to focus on stories about Sienna's pubes and Keira going topless. I'd rather read about stories about how the actors felt about their roles, how their experience was filming the movie, etc. I'm glad Cillian doesn't do rubbish stories. I think Cillian would choose to do it, if it was an important part of the story but on the other hand sex scenes often get far too much of the wrong kind of attention even when they are very artisticly done. I can see why a seroius actor would choose to avoid them and then there is also the feelings of the loved ones to take into considerations. Perhaps his mother doesn't like it, perhaps the wife doesn't feel comfortable or he doesn't want his kids to see that, when they get older. I do see Cillian having those types of reservations and concerns when it comes to doing love scenes. It seems to fit his personality, but whose to say that we really know how he really is? We'll just have to wait and see what comes along in his future movies. I respect whatever decision he makes. |
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Post by rukia888 on Dec 9, 2008 22:42:11 GMT -5
Sorry to double post... I got this info from imDb board for Hippie Hippie Shake. Supposedly, there was a screening of Hippie Hippie Shake last month in London. One viewer wrote a review of it here. Overall, the reviewer enjoyed it, but I'm getting the vibe that it wasn't the best movie ever. He really praised Sienna's performance though. Wow, what a surprise there since she bared herself for all to see, and the reviewer's a guy. Cillian's performance didn't get much praise unfortunately. I hope it's because of the director or the bad screenplay.  I hope he wasn't that bad. Sigh, it's too bad Cillian's recent movies haven't been getting the best of critical reviews. WTD didn't even make it to theaters, and The Edge of Love didn't even get that wide of a release in the U.K. Hopefully, Hippie isn't as bad as this reviewer is saying. If it is a bomb, I'm okay with that. There's always Peac*ck coming up, and Cillian's in it with a pretty strong cast (Susan Sarandon, Bill Pullman, and Ellen Page), so maybe it'll be somewhat of a critical hit. Oh, if anybody else out in London managed to catch this screening, I'd love to hear about it! |
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Post by Glas Smaragaide on Dec 10, 2008 4:52:49 GMT -5
Sorry to double post... I got this info from imDb board for Hippie Hippie Shake. Supposedly, there was a screening of Hippie Hippie Shake last month in London. One viewer wrote a review of it here. Overall, the reviewer enjoyed it, but I'm getting the vibe that it wasn't the best movie ever. He really praised Sienna's performance though. Wow, what a surprise there since she bared herself for all to see, and the reviewer's a guy. Cillian's performance didn't get much praise unfortunately. I hope it's because of the director or the bad screenplay. I hope he wasn't that bad. Sigh, it's too bad Cillian's recent movies haven't been getting the best of critical reviews. WTD didn't even make it to theaters, and The Edge of Love didn't even get that wide of a release in the U.K. Hopefully, Hippie isn't as bad as this reviewer is saying. If it is a bomb, I'm okay with that. There's always Peac*ck coming up, and Cillian's in it with a pretty strong cast (Susan Sarandon, Bill Pullman, and Ellen Page), so maybe it'll be somewhat of a critical hit. Oh, if anybody else out in London managed to catch this screening, I'd love to hear about it! How in hell did i miss this? I'm usually on the up about screenings that interest me. Damn. In my opinion, I don't put too much stock in what people on IMDB say. More times than not, it's a load of codswallop. That site has been so inaccurate in the past and I've not paid much attention to member's comments there. Bear in mind too that critics have ALWAYS praised Cillian even if the movie itself was blah. Most reviews I've read basically say Cillian was the best thing. Especially in The Edge of Love. That movie received so-so reviews but all the major critics said Cillian was brilliant and the only thing worth watching. Peac*ck looks promising. That's what I'm looking forward to. He has a knack for making what would be laughable with other actors, work for him. He pulled off Kitten with utter brilliance. I don't think I could have seen anyone else play that part. I know he's trying to branch out and try new things, but Cillian needs to be careful not to get stuck in too many bombs. He has his brilliant talent, nominations, resume and respect on his side....but he doesn't want people to forget why he wow'd us. I'd like to see him get another mainstream film soon. It doesn't have to be blockbuster material like Batman Begins (even though I wouldn't complain), but just something to get him back into public eye again. He needs a leading role again, and not an ensemble cast as of late. Cillian is the actor's actor. He doesn't choose his work lightly. |
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Post by rukia888 on Dec 10, 2008 10:43:07 GMT -5
In my opinion, I don't put too much stock in what people on IMDB say. More times than not, it's a load of codswallop. That site has been so inaccurate in the past and I've not paid much attention to member's comments there. You're absolutely right about imDb. I'm pretty skeptical about the information there, too, but I guess I was just pretty desperate for some new Cillian news yesterday. The London screening of Hippie might have not occurred at all. Who knows? I definitely agree with you here, too. I've also noticed that Cillian manages to shine in his performance despite being in a drab movie. He was excellent in The Edge of Love (and I mean this in the most unbiased way possible) although the movie itself could've been better. I liked the movie though personally, but yeah, it's not going to win any Oscars or anything. I agree, but I'm not in too much despair yet.  WTD was his only surefire bomb as of yet. I wouldn't classify The Edge of Love as a bomb because it did get some release and some positive critical reviews. Sienna did manage to grab herself a British Independent Film Award nomination for her role in Edge. So I'd call it mediocre at best. I know Cillian is very good at picking his roles, but you never know how a movie will do. Anyway, he's allotted to have a few bombs here and there in his career. I agree. I hope he chooses more mainstream roles soon, too. Mainstream doesn't exactly mean it's going to be critical fluff, and it doesn't mean it's going to be low quality work. These movies would really help jumpstart his career again. I don't know if Cillian really cares about making it big in acting, which is fine because I respect whatever career choice he makes, but as a fan, I just want him to be more well known and appreciated. |
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Post by Glas Smaragaide on Dec 10, 2008 21:51:23 GMT -5
I completely agree with you.
What kills me is when I see so much mediocre 'actors' out there in a film every other month, and I think "my God, why can't Cillian get more media attention?"
I do appreciate that he is the person he is. He is selective, and you're right...you never know how a film is going to do. Granted, many actor friends of mine say what they did in production and what ended up on screen (the finished product) was two different things. Maybe you just don't know how it is going to look when completed.
I read that Cillian was a bit frustrated because he wasn't sure where Danny was going with Sunshine. They filmed so many alternate endings and had to re-shoot scenes, that it got confusing. I loved Sunshine regardless, I don't think alot of moviegoers "got it"...the underlining theme of God vs. Science.
I actually enjoyed The Edge of Love. It wasn't a great movie, but it was still good. However, Keira's accent was horrid. I like Sienna, she's not a great actress but I she's better than Keira. Keira tends to play the same role over and over again. I think she is highly over-rated.
Cillian gave the only real three dimensional performance, in my opinion.
Every actor has a few bombs, you can't have perfect films every time. I just want to see him in some mainstream flicks intermixed with the Indies.
How about Cillian and Kate Beckensale? Those two would look great on screen together.
I'd like to see Cillian in another thriller.
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Post by Pisces on Dec 12, 2008 15:15:43 GMT -5
I would love to see Cillian do something with Cate Blanchett- she is my favorite actress and, in a way, they are on similar career paths, in that they both choose selectively and are not afraid to take chances... the major difference being that Cate is much more a "name" than Cillian, having had greater exposure. So that's what I would like for Cillian- more exposure. I know he wants to spend a lot of time with his family and that's commendable, but I'm a selfish fan and I want him to FILM MORE STUFF, DAMN IT. LOL. In 2007 the ONLY thing he shot was WTD. So that gave us a huge span of time in which there was nothing forthcoming from him.... and I think it slowed the momentum of his career drastically. Glas Smaragaide- I agree wholeheartedly about Sunshine, in that the message was rather lost in the sound and fury of Pinbacker (rolling my eyes). It is such a brilliant film in so many respects but I just didn't respect Boyle's handling of the third act. There IS a better movie in there- a more human movie- that didn't get made, and I will always be regretful of that. Having said that, I adore Robert Capa- and think that it's one of Cillian's most understated and powerful performances. I'm looking forward to Perrier's Bounty though (first time in a very long time that I have been excited about what Cillian is filming), because I love Intermission and it's exactly the kind of movie I like to see Cillian in... though I am hoping that it's a little darker than Intermission.  |
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Post by rukia888 on Dec 12, 2008 19:07:32 GMT -5
I read that Cillian was a bit frustrated because he wasn't sure where Danny was going with Sunshine. They filmed so many alternate endings and had to re-shoot scenes, that it got confusing. I loved Sunshine regardless, I don't think alot of moviegoers "got it"...the underlining theme of God vs. Science. Oh, I understood the theme all right. The movie had a lot of potential in the beginning, but I agree with Pisces. It kind of went downhill with Pinbacker in the last scenes. I really, really wanted to love Sunshine, but I just couldn't. Yeah, I liked it a lot, too. It could've been better, but I still liked it. I thought both Keira and Sienna were pretty good in their roles. Matthew Rhys wasn't that great though. He doesn't come through as convincing into portraying why Vera and Caitlin would be vying for his affection. He's a dowdy ass. It would make more sense if they were fighting over Cillian's character. Anyway, yes, I agree that Cillian gave the best performance out of all of them. He should've gotten the nomination rather than Sienna. Agreed. She's very pretty and quite talented, too. She does a great American accent. Me too. I loooved Red Eye. I think Peac*ck would count as a thriller, right? I would love to see Cillian do something with Cate Blanchett- she is my favorite actress and, in a way, they are on similar career paths, in that they both choose selectively and are not afraid to take chances... the major difference being that Cate is much more a "name" than Cillian, having had greater exposure. So that's what I would like for Cillian- more exposure. I looove Cate Blanchett, too! She's absolutely gorgeous, flawless, and talented! She's definitely of my favorite actresses, too. I can't wait to see her in Benjamin Button. In some scenes, she looks soo young and beautiful that it's amazing. I can't wait. And I agree. Cillian definitely needs more exposure! He was getting a whole lot of buzz of being the next "big newcomer" with 28 Days Later, Batman Begins and Red Eye, but it all just kind of died off gradually. I apologize for going off topic, but Cillian's career kind of parallels with Rachel McAdams' career right now. She's another one of my faves. She was getting a lot of buzz of being the next "it girl", the next "Julia Roberts", the next "Reese Witherspoon", whatever, around the same time that Cillian was getting buzz. Then it all got kind of quiet. She released two indies that didn't get much reception at all. Her two next movies are currently awaiting release. I'm glad that she's filming Sherlock Holmes right now. It sounds like it's going to be a big mainstream movie... hopefully, Cillian will decide to film a big mainstream movie soon, too. Oh, and I just want to say that I'd loove to see Cillian in a movie with Kate Winslet. She's so freaking talented and takes on awesome roles. Her movies always get so much acclaim, too; her two new movies, The Reader and Revolutionary Road, are getting a lot of buzz. I think any Kate Winslet movie is a surefire winner. Or how about Meryl Streep and Phillip Seymour Hoffman?! Doubt looks like it's going to be good. And Sean Penn?! Haven't seen Milk, but I really want to! Gosh, there's all of these good movies out right now ( Milk, Doubt, The Reader, Revolutionary Road, Benjamin Button, etc), and it just makes me frustrated sometimes that Cillian is not in any of them. He's so talented! |
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Post by Glas Smaragaide on Dec 13, 2008 22:07:12 GMT -5
Holy crap..I can't believe I left out Cate as a fav in my other post. Sheesh....
I remember something George Clooney said a year or so ago. You have to do a 'blockbuster' or mainstream film every so often (even if it's fluff and you don't really care about it) to fund the projects you realllly want to do.
In a way he's right. You do need to keep yourself in the public eye enough to remind people why you're amazing. Then when you do a "Good Night and Good Luck", etc...that isn't going to bring in the money like an Ocean's 11-13...you're still getting the attention.
28 Days Later was the catalyst...and then Red Eye really put him out there. After Batman Begins, the momentum slowed considerably. Well, he did get the nom for "Breakfast on Pluto" , but it was a film most people did not see (like many good films).
He needs another mainstream, leading man role.
Granted an actor like Cillian can carve an amazing career by being a 'character actor', but I want him to be not only that but a headlining star too.
Being the Red Eye addict I am, I still think there's a bigger story there. It was a paced, easy thriller and very enjoyable. To Wes' credit , he DID leave (unintentional or not) alot open for speculation. Who is Jack? Did he die? What if, what if , what if....
I know the critics would probably bury a sequel to Red Eye.... but I'd still go see it. It doesn't even have to get fluffy or romantic at all....a revenge thriller would rock.
A political thriller would be a good fit for Cillian.
I agree that Sunshine had some serious potential. I think the critics said the same: "it started out great.....then fizzled"
I would have gone more along the lines of the crew 'losing it' rather than Evil Pinbacker coming into play. As if Danny suddenly tried to pull a 'horror movie' angle instead of keeping with the original drama and intensity brewed from the begining.
Going to Icarus 1 and speculating what went wrong with the crew. Learning more as they go along. Explore that kind of cabin fever and what it can do to seemingly normal people.
The way Cillian played Capa, he knows what he needs to do and understands the gravity of it all. He takes it from a scientific standpoint, where Mace sees it as a duty, etc....Then you see differences among the crew and what it could take to make them crack.
Danny opened it up brilliantly with the crew already several months into the mission. Mace's crack up... then 'what's his name' that almost gets everyone killed when he doesn't set the shields to the right angle and Kaneida dies because of it.
The story got lost, I think.
Someone said (maybe not here) that Cappa and Cassie had a potential romance. I think Cillian said so too in an interview but was glad it was axed because it didn't serve the story.
I agree and disagree. I wouldn't have had a traditional romance, but more of unrequited love. Cassie is obviously infatuated with Cappa, but that scene in his quarters, he doesn't seem to recipocate it.
I think learning the back stories in the characters and how it correlated to the mission would have been more interesting.
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Post by Pisces on Dec 14, 2008 11:20:50 GMT -5
Hmmm.... that Capa/Cassie thing has always had me doing some heavy duty thinking. I am something of a "Capsie" shipper, because let's face it, this was a very unique situation for this crew. You had six men and two women locked up with each other for the better part of two years. I don't care how profesional someone is - at some point, there will be attraction, and I think that in that bizarre circumstance, they would have - to some extent - justified sex to themselves as a stress reliever, if nothing else. While I agree that Capa doesn't seem to reciprocate Cassie's interest in that scene, he also does not seem very surprised to see her in his bedroom and on his bed in the middle of the night. So that implied to me that there had BEEN a relationship between them which was now dissolved. I always saw it thus- Cassie and Capa became involved during the mission. Not necessarily in the traditional romantic sense but out of sheer loneliness and from bonding through their shared circumstance. Mace felt somewhat snubbed because he is more the "jock" type and probably accustomed to getting the girl... and here is Cassie going for scruffy little Capa; maybe this was a part of what generated Mace's antipathy toward Capa. At some point, Capa cuts off the private visits between himself and Cassie, wanting to focus on the mission perhaps, or maybe because the relationship was frowned upon by others and getting along with them was essential. At any rate, I could imagine Capa jettisoning anything that might compromise the mission once they got closer to getting it done. That would explain his cool reception of her as we saw in the movie scene. Also, I have always felt that there was something to read into his comment "Maybe you should talk to Dr. Searle about that," when Cassie mentioned her dreams. It's something about his tone and expression there... a little bit of sarcasm... that could be taken a number of ways, including perhaps some minor jealousy that Cassie might be involved with the good doctor by that time. LOL. I am probably reading wayyyyyyy too much into that but I always lock onto little details and my mind runs with them. |
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Post by rukia888 on Dec 14, 2008 14:40:11 GMT -5
Wow, Pisces, I think you really did read a lot into this Capa/Cassie relationship. You've dissected and analyzed it right down to the smallest detail. I hate to admit that I don't really see it. Don't get me wrong. I would've loved to see something between Capa and Cassie because they're both so attractive, and both Cillian and Rose are such great actors. I just didn't see Cassie's infatuation with Capa (although many other people saw this), and I didn't feel any sexual tension between them. I guess when I was watching this, I wasn't really keen on the little details. I guess was paying attention more to the big general picture (delivering the payload, reigniting the sun, etc). I also felt that the whole crew had a bit of a sterile, asexual, scientific, businesslike vibe to them. I didn't feel any sexual tensions/attractions at all. Maybe it's just me because I believe I read somewhere in a Danny Boyle interview that Danny wanted to throw in a sex scene between Capa and Cassie but then decided that it wouldn't make sense against the backdrop of the bigger matter at hand (reigniting the sun). Oh well, there's probably something there. One thing's for sure-- the potential Capa/Cassie attraction is definitely much more logical than the potential Jackson/Lisa attraction in Red Eye. But still I'm a big Jackson/Lisa shipper. Yeah, some people think it's crazy to even see anything between them, but I guess that means I'm crazy. P.S-- This thread has gotten waaay off topic, huh? |
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Post by Pisces on Dec 14, 2008 17:03:59 GMT -5
Yes, this thread is way off the original topic, that's for sure!
I probably should clarify the case I just made for Capa/Cassie- in no way did I see an infatuation for Capa from Cassie. I think, if they had a sexual relationship, it was more along the lines of a "friends with benefits" sort of thing, or, more specifically, "colleagues with benefits." I think they would have seen each other very much as equals aboard Icarus II and I hope it doesn't seem that I was implying that they were anything other than professional during their voyage. LOL. However- you have to taken into consideration the huge span of time in which they were bottled up together during this mission. The vast majority of that time would have not looked anything like what we saw in the movie- which was life or death, deliver the payload NOW, etc. Most of the time before that, they would have been doing routine maintenance, a lot of housekeeping, and trying not to go nuts from boredom. We are talking about years here - they would have been very much like prisoners. I know that they had a crucial mission on their hands but I still think there was room and certainly time for something to develop between some of them, and professional or not, they weren't robots. They were humans with very real fears, anxieties, and surely suffering from significant loneliness.
But, this is just my opinion because I find it more interesting to imagine their day to day existences aboard Icarus II as rife with all the things that make up a real life- including the full spectrum of human emotion - rather than a dry span of time in which they merely went about their jobs with complete detachment. That's only me though- I realize this is probably unpalatable to some people. LOL. I'm just trying to justify the "what if" factor of a possible involvement between Capa and Cassie in a way that makes sense to me- and I think it would not have been very romantic at all but based in loneliness and staving off depression.
Having said all of that, I have always been a Jackson/Lisa shipper as well- and that was even harder to justify. LOL. But I tried in Crossing the Line - it had to be based in realism or I couldn't go there.
Everyone has their own ideas about fandoms- that's what makes them so much fun!
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) But who knows how he feels about it. I think he mainly focuses on the emotion he puts into a movie though, so I guess however much is crucial to the film he'll do.
I'm trying to remember... the one in Watching the Detectives was just mostly of him and Lucy making out in bed. Nothing much in Disco Pigs, On the Edge, and The Wind That Shakes the Barley either. Am I missing any other movie? 
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I also think that explicit sex scenes rarely are really necessary for the story, and also love scenes are sometimes just useless and inopportune. For example, I remember reading that in "Sunshine" there was initially a love scene between Capa and Cassie, in the oxygen garden, but then Danny Boyle decided not to include it because he found it kinda out of context in a sci-fi movie (and I totally agree) , and also Cillian agreed that his character was unlikely to be in the mood for love in such a situation (and I agree again). In my opinion even in "28 Days Later" they should have avoided a love story between Selena and Jim, I find it kinda pathetic , but that's just my opinion . 
I hope he wasn't that bad. Sigh, it's too bad Cillian's recent movies haven't been getting the best of critical reviews. WTD didn't even make it to theaters, and The Edge of Love didn't even get that wide of a release in the U.K. Hopefully, Hippie isn't as bad as this reviewer is saying. If it is a bomb, I'm okay with that. There's always Peac*ck coming up, and Cillian's in it with a pretty strong cast (Susan Sarandon, Bill Pullman, and Ellen Page), so maybe it'll be somewhat of a critical hit. 
WTD was his only surefire bomb as of yet. I wouldn't classify The Edge of Love as a bomb because it did get some release and some positive critical reviews. Sienna did manage to grab herself a British Independent Film Award nomination for her role in Edge. So I'd call it mediocre at best. 
