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Post by Pisces on Dec 12, 2009 14:38:58 GMT -5
Emma- no, I don't have Shannon's email address, though I know Melty Girl does. However, Melty has always had difficulty in getting Shannon to listen to reason on this exact issue, and last I heard, she had all but given up on trying to convince her that a new mod would be in this forum's best interest.
I would not be surprised, however, if these latest antics were being perpetrated by someone we already know around here... a crude attempt to drive users to a newer, very unpopulated forum where they are in charge....
Just a thought.
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Post by rukia888 on Dec 12, 2009 14:56:14 GMT -5
Thanks for the heads-up, Pisces.
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Post by razzthekid on Dec 13, 2009 13:38:08 GMT -5
I would not be surprised, however, if these latest antics were being perpetrated by someone we already know around here... a crude attempt to drive users to a newer, very unpopulated forum where they are in charge.... Just a thought. Yeah i was thinking that too. I'm on another Proboards.com forum. Do you think i should ask one of the mods over there if they know any way to help this one?  |
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Post by emma286 on Dec 13, 2009 16:11:05 GMT -5
Emma- no, I don't have Shannon's email address, though I know Melty Girl does. However, Melty has always had difficulty in getting Shannon to listen to reason on this exact issue, and last I heard, she had all but given up on trying to convince her that a new mod would be in this forum's best interest. I would not be surprised, however, if these latest antics were being perpetrated by someone we already know around here... a crude attempt to drive users to a newer, very unpopulated forum where they are in charge.... Just a thought. Many thanks for confirming Pisces, much appreciated  . Yeah...I remember that being mentioned in another thread a little while back. I thought at the time it seemed a pretty strange attitude for that admin to take. I guess if she wouldn't listen to Melty Girl though, then it's unlikely she'd listen to the rest of us. Although then again maybe if enough of us emailed her maybe it'd help... Totally seeing your point on the second part of what you said too. It wouldn't surprise me either! |
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Post by Larvalee on Dec 14, 2009 1:01:36 GMT -5
Maybe we could try and contact her again and attach our petition to it so she knows others back up Melty or whoever sends the email.
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Post by emma286 on Dec 14, 2009 13:14:48 GMT -5
I'd personally be more than happy to do that.  Sounds to me though as if Melty's the only user around here who has the email address, and she's not been around - as far as I've noticed anyways - in some while. Still, as far as I know she's contactable at the Cillian site, so if anyone likes I'm more than happy to alert her to what we're talking about in here and see what she says from there. |
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Post by rukia888 on Dec 14, 2009 16:10:23 GMT -5
Sure, that'd be great, Emma. Thank you. |
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Post by emma286 on Dec 15, 2009 12:50:07 GMT -5
No worries Rukia. Just dropped her an email, so hopefully she'll soon look in on this thread! |
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Post by emma286 on Dec 17, 2009 16:29:54 GMT -5
Ok guys, I've since heard back from Melty and she's in full agreement with what we've been discussing - thinking it'd definitely be a good idea for all of us to make a point of contacting Shannon. She's also very kindly passed the email address onto me. I guess there's one of two ways we can do this. Either we all email her individually (I'm happy to pass on the email details to anyone who needs them) or else one of us emails her, but as mentioned earlier we could include some kind of member list with it - to show the person who emails her is acting on the behalf of the rest of us here who feel strongly on this issue. Or maybe even as a third option, one of us could just send her a brief email her directing her to the petition threads already created on here so she knows where to read them. I've had another idea too. I know ideally everyone wants a new admin and I feel just the same way But maybe as a compromise thing, if she's really strongly against the idea of a new admin taking over, it's worth asking her if at least she'd be willing to consider giving mod rights to at least one willing member here. Being a moderator isn't the same thing as having full control of a forum, but at the same time still has the power to deal with things like nuisance posts by deleting them, and also ensuring threads are in the right kind of places etc. At least, then the forum would still be regularly kept in some kind of order - even though admittedly a new admin would be better. What does everyone else think? |
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Post by Larvalee on Dec 17, 2009 18:24:13 GMT -5
Thanks so much for contacting Melty Emma. I was thinking the same thing, if she isn't comfortable handing over the forum completely at least giving mod. rights to at least 2 active & long standing posters would probably be enough to keep things in check. I think 2 mods would be perfect. I think it's too big of a job for one person plus if that one person stops posting we are back in the same boat again.  I think multiple emails might give her the impression she is being attacked and I also think it's unnecessary to have 10 people all telling her the same thing. I think one nicely worded email with a link to the petition should be enough. What do the rest of you think? |
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Post by sabine on Dec 17, 2009 19:02:14 GMT -5
i think one e-mail from one person on behalf of the forum would suffice, otherwise Shannon might feel harrassed, and could just pull the plug on the whole thing.
I've stood on both sides of the fence regarding moderators. While I'd love to see the relentless spam deleted, I don't believe in censoring posts. There have been some pretty lively discussions here in the past, and they make for entertaining reading!
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Post by Pisces on Dec 18, 2009 7:54:33 GMT -5
I agree that it should be one single email to her, and that we should ask merely for rights to minimize the chaos around here.
Sabine, no one is discussing censorship. As much as I dislike one or two members who have used this forum, I would not delete their posts. The stuff that has been happening daily, however... that stuff needs to stop. It's cluttering up this forum and is absolutely pointless. I have no problem with opposing viewpoints from users, but what has been going on in the last week or so here is intolerable.
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Post by razzthekid on Dec 18, 2009 12:21:13 GMT -5
I think we need to be very careful about how we approach this because obviously Shannon is feeling very protective of this forum as her own and isn't pleased about us interfering at all. I know that she got the forum in very sad circumstances and it must have memories and value to her but we need someone to keep control of it. As someone mentioned already she could easily decide to stop the forum altogether is she wanted to so we have to try and be very polite in the e-mail. Maybe visiting here brings back bad memories for her and that's why she doesn't visit it as much. I don't know. Anyway i think one e-mail with everyones name printed would be the best way and if she still refuses, at least ask her to explain why she won't let someone look after it while she still has ownership of it. And i agree that we need at least two active moderators- who will agree to pass down moderator status to another member if they know they can't do the job as well anymore. EDIT: We should probably send her some links to the threads that have been hi-jacked the worst so she can see how serious this is too and that we're not just trying to annoy her or anything. |
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Post by Larvalee on Dec 19, 2009 1:31:08 GMT -5
I'm not sure if moderators can appoint other moderators if they decide to leave, isn't that something only the administrator can do? Does anyone know? I agree with Pisces, I don't think the goal is (or should be) censorship.
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Post by emma286 on Dec 19, 2009 10:15:56 GMT -5
No probs Larva, and thanks to everyone who has shared their thoughts in here since their last post ;-) Ok doke, if everyone thinks it's best just one email be sent - but with all of our names included at the end to show it's from all of us, I'm happy to go with that idea and send the email - that is unless anyone else here would rather do so? I'm more than happy to volunteer, but at the same time if for some reason anyone else here thinks it might be better they do it instead (such as for example because they've been registered here for longer and already know Shannon to a certain extent - while I don't and haven't been here all that long) then please don't hesitate to say. I won't take any offence Also my apologies Sabine if I gave the wrong impression in saying what I did above. As Pisces said, I literally just meant nuisance posts such as spam - like alot of the posts that have been made recently. As all it does is clutter up the forum unecessarily and doesn't add anything to any of the discussions. Plus, thinking that the idea Larva and Kim came up with of having two mods is a very good one (as well as including links in the message to some of the spam that's been posted recently). Though will mention that for one I also have my high doubts that anyone other than Shannon could allocate mod rights to anyone - as in the past have helped run a couple of forums as a mod and that's the way it worked then. Not just because of the admins attitude, but because of how the actual software system was set up - meaning that only a registered admin had the right system permissions to do it. Whoever sends the email though, (if it's anyone other than me who ends up sending it) I'd recommend they check with Shannon first anyways - as she's the only one (I would think) who would know that for sure. |
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. Yeah...I remember that being mentioned in another thread a little while back. I thought at the time it seemed a pretty strange attitude for that admin to take. I guess if she wouldn't listen to Melty Girl though, then it's unlikely she'd listen to the rest of us. Although then again maybe if enough of us emailed her maybe it'd help...
Sounds to me though as if Melty's the only user around here who has the email address, and she's not been around - as far as I've noticed anyways - in some while. Still, as far as I know she's contactable at the Cillian site, so if anyone likes I'm more than happy to alert her to what we're talking about in here and see what she says from there. 